Showing posts with label Realizations. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Realizations. Show all posts

Friday, August 28, 2015

Last sunday (16th August) MPP association notes

Devotees are not different from lord.
Thinking prabhupada means thinking of krsna ..n u become so much grateful so at time of death..u ll go back..only by his mercy ..i got this KC. Krishna is never thought of separated from his devotee.
Is there a whole without a part..similarly if u r a part n connected then u r not w/o whole but in saparated/conditioned state we r apart from whole.

Q) Is everything destined, how much free will we have ?
A) In your journey B (birth) to D (death), there is C (choice) also, so ur freedom is what path you will choose, but milestones (eg, educ. Wealth. material Sukkha ) are destined in human form. Milestones -degrees of happiness, means may be different. Whether u get a btech ,bsc ..u crossed that milestone..ur choice was only dat in what kind of knowledge but education was fixed.eg drinking juice from steel glass and bronze glass, the taste is the same, only difference is of glass...milestone same but the means may change. If someone bcm attached to that particular type of sense enjoyment...eg suppose he wants to drink juice from gold glass only.. then he will over endeavor to gratify this desire..which is the cause of all the anxieties of this world...so give up this desire, thus anxiety.
Milestones are fixed, only roads can change..so material happiness/distress is fixed.
Once one knows this knowledge, he (for human only) will no longer put their energy in changing this..bcoz it cannot be changd(material milestones)..but now u ll put ur energy where u can change..spiritual life. There is no milestone initially , but based on ur energy put here u can advance beyond limits of imagination. So real freedom lies here, in domain of spiritual happiness, not in material happiness. So the more u struggle to becm pure devotee the more quicker u bcm but , in material the more or less ,u will reach the milestone. So, there is a minimum path to reach that milestone so by the knowledge of this that it is fixed u can take  the path of minimum endeavor. (Past life destined-human life utility given , do ur normal duty but struggle for  where its make a difference..eg by extracting x kcal u can lift a thing from A to B by displacement but if u put 3x by lifting it from A to B by distance..so one who is intelligent will not over endeavor and thus will take the path of displacement (minimum distance path) rather than the distance (longer versions)-this over endeavor is what causong full stress for material world).

CASE STUDY:
1.) suppose if u want to learn guitar..but you can see that you have no natural inclination towards it...then why u r so struggling..something not naturally coming..in flow..that is over endeavor.
2) So whoever big successful man tells about how they r now, how they reached here..they say work hard is the key to success..never believe them..instead ask them why they r teliing it now.. but they didnt say earlier before getting it..complete cheating..maybe ppl who have done 10 times more hard work..why they r not there..or why they are not 10 times more richer/successful than that person?
3) Lord is saying that material happiness/distress is fixed...or milestones are fixed...he is not an ordinary person..so somehow or other we have to believe him then realization will start to cm..
4) So from 1 milestone to 2nd milestone..some sequences of success/failure may be there..but overall u will get to that 2nd milestone that is for sure ..so krsna tells in BG ..do things as matter of duty..then you will not get affected..from envy/jealousy..bcoz you know the law of karma.
So ur intelligence will be effectively utilized in work..but not simple wasted on emotions. A kc person does not make much endeavor to maintain his body,  whatever comes easily he remain satisfied..he labors for what is in his power..n then keep him satisfied with watever comes by dat..fruits..so honest labor..satisfied with watever fruit..thus independent from material happiness/distress. So, many way u cn overwork..intellectual overwork, not doing honestly (bcm rich but earn bag full of papas-sins), bodily overwork, mental overwork for material gains...bt for service of lord..he will not put limit..he ll try extreme measure to progress.egsomebody gives black money he will take it..its all krsna money.
5) So these self books...they say u to dream so much maybe opposite to ur destiny ...then ppl becm distressed/depressed then they go to a psychiatrist.
So out of those who read that book..only 5% get their goal..and they will rate (give review) very will..95% who does not get success will not rate it out of shame...and thus since dey did not become successful dey will not come out n tell dat dis doesnot work..instead dey may think that i did not get the msg my other fellow did..so this is all mental speculation.
So there is struggle in kc also but this is enjoyable..fruits are tasty..but this struggle cannot be separated from us (as long as we are in this material world and we have a material body...whether in spiritual life or material life..u hv to struggle) in one strugle u get nothing..things r fixed but here in spiritual paramatma gets pleased so progress can happen beyond any limits, fruits are tasty.

Jealousy-negative thought control?
Jealousy/lust- make u prisoner of sense object..u go on thinking of that sense object...so give up by applying the sword of knowledge.
Mind level-knowledge:understand why? Some difference causing dat b/w us n other.
Body level-develop self control 


Q) Morning when we leave hostel, we feel fully charged after doing sadhana but as the day passes working in company,our energy start to go down and since we start to feel completely discharged of energy at that time we become more prone to get influenced by anarthas inside us, so prabhu plz tell how to address this issue on daily basis? How to keep our momentum going..?
A- 1.) read books in night time for 2 hrs..if job is so horrible that not allowing to have such work-life balance .. change job.
2) Material life is horrible..join temple..krsna will take care..
3) Do job where u can save ur spiritual life also..else leave job or dont take it.. they take away ur prana ..ur boss will take away urs ..his boss will take away his prana.
4) Krsna will administer a medicine when it will work like a medicine not like poison.like prabhu is president..so very high position given by krsna..but it can work like poison also ( pride)..so need to remember krsna.

* Dont take pleasure, give pleasure. We r also plsr beings like krsna but krsna's constitutional position is in taking plz..ours is in giving plsr. Just as any lover takes plsr in giving plsr to its loved one.

Q) Chanting-thinking or no thinking.
A) Thoughts are there..since mind cannot be deprived from thoughts ..but processing of thought is different than thoughts..so thoughts can come while chanting which may be even related to spiritual/devotion..but processing is an activity so since i can do one thing at a time (our brain is not hardwired to do multitasking efficiently)..so u just hear. One activity ..u hear.
Krsna name so powerful ..u keep on hearing and chanting. Processing will stop.. thoughts r product of our subconsciousness..and it may change as u go on chanting. So, thoughts r not enemy (one after another ).

Wednesday, August 5, 2015

Prabhupada's quick reply

Prabhupada quick reply to Brainwashing- One devotee to srila prabhupada "people say that you iskcon people are brainwashing us". Srila prabhupada " yes, we are brainwashing people because their brain is so full of mud and stool , we need to wash it". Another example of how counteractive  prabhupada was - One person asked prabhupada "god has given us alcohols, drugs etc. For enjoyment ,so what is wrong in taking them?" Prabhupada replied "god has given poison also, why don't you take it!".

Next life existence

For those who are atheistic in nature, if we say to them that "Don't do sinful activities like meat eating, gambling, intoxication etc. otherwise you have to suffer a great deal of punishment because of the reactions of those sinful activities." They most of the time do not believe because they deny any future existence after this life.
But, suppose if you do not have faith in god, do not faith in karma, do not faith in pious and sinful actions. But, still if you are intelligent you should not take chance/risk. Why?
Because just like I cannot prove that there's next life although even if I give lots of proof from shastra and small children who recalled incidents from their past birth but if still you adamant in not taking them as proper proof then still, you cannot disprove this argument that there is no next life.

    So, an intelligent person will think in this way suppose there is 50-50 probability of existence of next life or not,  and so I do not have full faith (100%) in its existence, but still because of 50% chance, if I will suffer for my sinful acts next life then I should not take risk and try to avoid those actions. Means, suppose if it is true that there is next life and I have to suffer for all the wrong deeds then I should be careful and thus live a pious life.

Example, suppose you are going on a road and I am running towards you from the opposite direction and I tell you that Don't go on this road , there is a snake at the end of the road and it is biting anyone who goes towards him.
So, now you have two options:
1) Go straight and find out yourself risking the fact if there is a snake it will bite you and you can die.
2) Or you follow my advice and change your route.
I think an intelligent person will think objectively that there is 50-50 chance that my words may be true so I should not risk my life based on that chance of 50%.
Similarly, if one is intelligent he will think that since there is a 50% of chance that Scriptures are right and there is a next life where I have to pay for all my sins so better let me not take the risk and keep myself away from sins as much I can.