Abbreviations used:
SP- srila prabhupada
1. Sp means Absolute Truth (AT)
There is a difference between on AT and god. Two not on same same level.
By vedic describe god as ishvara- controller..different level of controller.
Absolute truth- param satya, tatva, vastu, ultimate source of everything..that is Vedanta is about etc.
Veda -knowledge.. Concept of god
Vedanta- end of knowledge.. Much higher concept..absolute truth.
So mentioned about cause..
It is human nature to look for cause in every matter..this present in animals too but it is much more developed, pronounced in human...we want to know the root cause..going beyond the immediate cause.
Eg Newton wanted to know the cause why apple fell?
So the quest for cause is there in human beings..and the more we try to quest for cause..the more we are highly developed beings.
Another aspect- multi level cause. eg
Some successful businessman give different-2 reasons for their success.
But actually there are 5 factors in success/perfection-
Sankhe kirtante proktani- this is vedanta, Vedanta explains this..
1. Situation
2. Doer
3. Chestha
4. Instruments
5. Daivam- supreme will
Nobody talks about 5th. Eg
13 lacs iit, how selected?
In those 12 lacs..4 factors you can find..
The world is designed like that..the empirical formula is like that 4 causes are talked.
Eg. Pandavas discussing cause of their victory.. Everybody started arguing.. Krsna then stopped them..barbaric..son of bhim..
Who has blessings that he can view the war again..he saw whole..then said 18 days..a bug chakra brilliant light..was vanquishing everywhere.. So krsna is the cause bt all pandavas are devotees so he made them do this argument.
So this world forgets the 5th.
Eg2 child saw father raising a big table..child loved to see that..then he one day trying to lift up..could not lift up.
So mother said u drink horlicks
Grandmother daily practice
Grandfather daily wake up.
Everybody amused what this child would do.
Then one day father hiding..and helped from his hiding way..the child finally lifted..and happily said..mother horlicks, grandmother daily practice.. Etc did.
So daivi shakti works like that. The world makes you forget the 5th cause.
Cause , its cause and its cause and goes on..the phenomenal world is complex world of cause and its causes interlocking one other..so Vedanta is about the ultimate cause.
Just like daiva cause is missed out by empirical ...similarly ultimate cause is missed out by science.. Just like gravitational is found as a cause but what is its cause..but still not found..although this one cause gravitation has changed our lives..lots of technology advancement.
Newton said i want to know why god created ..what is his thoughts.. That is the ultimate thing..rest are just details.
2. Stephen Hawking : Theory of everything- unification theory..
Elli gent that everyone can understand and discuss...then we can know what is in God mind...
So both statement point to same things
3. What is cosmological theory of creation- we say the big bang theory. Somewhere in timeline big explosion.
So inquisitive persons can ask..where did this bang occurred?
Learn more about the big bang theory..
An equation with T variable..find T.
So, at T=0 , singularity.. Cant find solution.
So scientific assume T. But space not there, energy not there.
Very bewildering question?
1929 big bang came..before that steady state universe theory.
4. Prof lisa randol - knocking doors of heaven. Cosmology.
Planar world ant.
Sphere is circle for ant..
Similarly higher dimension object is 3D for us.
Now, Vedanta trying to find out the ultimate cause..recognizes that human has limited cognitive power. So, with this limited cognitive power..all the science.
Why we should be bother about ultimate cause?
Example..prabhu getting money from a brown uniform man in hostel life...i recognize him as great..and not recognizing the father who is depositing the money..i am a fool.
So , until we recognize the ultimate cause..we don't know the glory of our ultimate father.
Eg mother/father's day..to remember them..but they are the intermediate cause..nature is the adhisthana cause..has its affects..like this there are multiple causes..and the causes has their causes..and then there is an ultimate cause vedanta says...its not on this plane but on higher level..not on mundane level..called param brahman param dham..
Just like we know our father/mother as our cause...if we know about ultimate cause..we can know his glories. The quest or thirst or ability to recognize the higher causes is the signature of enlightenment of living being. So, krsna says bahunam janmanam..krsna is cause of everything.. That one recognizes about after many, many births.
Just like we put faith (without any basis) that our mind, body, senses can give us knowledge..the Vedanta says that there is knowledge beyond all this..that cones from descending form..that there is absolute truth..which is transcendental to all mundane things.
So, cause must have all the attributes of everything..otherwise how he can give that cause..so ultimate cause have all attributes and he is a person..krsna.BG, SB helps us understand these aspects.
We will learn why it happens?
SP- srila prabhupada
1. Sp means Absolute Truth (AT)
There is a difference between on AT and god. Two not on same same level.
By vedic describe god as ishvara- controller..different level of controller.
Absolute truth- param satya, tatva, vastu, ultimate source of everything..that is Vedanta is about etc.
Veda -knowledge.. Concept of god
Vedanta- end of knowledge.. Much higher concept..absolute truth.
It is human nature to look for cause in every matter..this present in animals too but it is much more developed, pronounced in human...we want to know the root cause..going beyond the immediate cause.
Eg Newton wanted to know the cause why apple fell?
So the quest for cause is there in human beings..and the more we try to quest for cause..the more we are highly developed beings.
Another aspect- multi level cause. eg
Some successful businessman give different-2 reasons for their success.
But actually there are 5 factors in success/perfection-
Sankhe kirtante proktani- this is vedanta, Vedanta explains this..
1. Situation
2. Doer
3. Chestha
4. Instruments
5. Daivam- supreme will
Nobody talks about 5th. Eg
13 lacs iit, how selected?
In those 12 lacs..4 factors you can find..
The world is designed like that..the empirical formula is like that 4 causes are talked.
Eg. Pandavas discussing cause of their victory.. Everybody started arguing.. Krsna then stopped them..barbaric..son of bhim..
Who has blessings that he can view the war again..he saw whole..then said 18 days..a bug chakra brilliant light..was vanquishing everywhere.. So krsna is the cause bt all pandavas are devotees so he made them do this argument.
So this world forgets the 5th.
So mother said u drink horlicks
Grandmother daily practice
Grandfather daily wake up.
Everybody amused what this child would do.
Then one day father hiding..and helped from his hiding way..the child finally lifted..and happily said..mother horlicks, grandmother daily practice.. Etc did.
So daivi shakti works like that. The world makes you forget the 5th cause.
Cause , its cause and its cause and goes on..the phenomenal world is complex world of cause and its causes interlocking one other..so Vedanta is about the ultimate cause.
Just like daiva cause is missed out by empirical ...similarly ultimate cause is missed out by science.. Just like gravitational is found as a cause but what is its cause..but still not found..although this one cause gravitation has changed our lives..lots of technology advancement.
Newton said i want to know why god created ..what is his thoughts.. That is the ultimate thing..rest are just details.
Elli gent that everyone can understand and discuss...then we can know what is in God mind...
So both statement point to same things
So inquisitive persons can ask..where did this bang occurred?
Learn more about the big bang theory..
An equation with T variable..find T.
So, at T=0 , singularity.. Cant find solution.
So scientific assume T. But space not there, energy not there.
Very bewildering question?
1929 big bang came..before that steady state universe theory.
Planar world ant.
Sphere is circle for ant..
Similarly higher dimension object is 3D for us.
Example..prabhu getting money from a brown uniform man in hostel life...i recognize him as great..and not recognizing the father who is depositing the money..i am a fool.
So , until we recognize the ultimate cause..we don't know the glory of our ultimate father.
Eg mother/father's day..to remember them..but they are the intermediate cause..nature is the adhisthana cause..has its affects..like this there are multiple causes..and the causes has their causes..and then there is an ultimate cause vedanta says...its not on this plane but on higher level..not on mundane level..called param brahman param dham..
Just like we know our father/mother as our cause...if we know about ultimate cause..we can know his glories. The quest or thirst or ability to recognize the higher causes is the signature of enlightenment of living being. So, krsna says bahunam janmanam..krsna is cause of everything.. That one recognizes about after many, many births.
So, cause must have all the attributes of everything..otherwise how he can give that cause..so ultimate cause have all attributes and he is a person..krsna.BG, SB helps us understand these aspects.
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